Editor Lauren Miller joins the podcast as an artist, discussing her experience creating her zine, Limbo, with co-authors Kalie Leavelle and Isabelle Carranza. 

Note: a zine is an independently created and published collection of art and/or literature – derived from the word ‘magazine.’

Then, Miller and editor Ardea Eichner use the zine creation process as a jumping-off point to discuss creativity in terms of organization; debating the merits of spreadsheets, deadlines, and other such potentially helpful constraints.